Question:
How does the No Child Left Behind Act affect students?
anonymous
2007-11-30 04:39:14 UTC
I think it affects only general education students because they have to pass the state exams. If they don't they have to repeat the grade. (I think this is pointless because there are limitations to how many grades can be repeated.) And they will end up being left behind when they do not promote them. Special needs students don't have to pass the state exams. If they fail, they will still be promoted anyway. Am I right? I am just guessing as this is what I think No Child Left Behind Act means. Grade retention is for people who are conservative. Social promotion is for people who "think outside of the box". For example, a twelfth grader who does well in school but fails on state exams would not receive a diploma. Is that leaving this student behind? Yes! It is stupid to have this student repeat the grade when he has difficulty on state exams. Why would they even force him to be even more behind by having the student repeat the grade? He could be already in college but no he is still in high school.
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jdeekdee
2007-11-30 07:35:27 UTC
NCLB tests are to see how well the SCHOOL is doing, and NOT the students! That is the LAW. But from the way it's going, MOST parents and students do NOT know this.



They fail the student who fails the tests and keep feeding them the info to memorize on the tests until they DO PASS, so the schools can GET MORE MONEY.





It affects students in a lot of ways. First of all, because of NCLB, teachers can not teach in the way they want to anymore. They are mandated by this law to spoon feed the info into the students like robots so they can pass these tests so the school can GET MORE MONEY.

GONE are the days of creativity, individualism, or teaching what is really needed in LIFE.

These students are the future of our country and they will lead this country not knowing how to work out problems because they will be use to having everything fed to them, given to them.

Because of NCLB students do not have to work out problems for themselves.

My grandson in 2nd grade said his teacher does not TEACH him what to do, she just gives them papers and tells them to 'memorize' what is on them.

I am not sure if this was how NCLB was meant to be, but it IS the way it's being done.



Schools are cheating like crazy and will do ANYTHING to GET MORE MONEY.



They ONLY teach what is going to be on these tests. They have parties for the kids who pass the tests and they rub this in the faces of the kids who do not pass.



I know in some cases the kids WILL fail and be left back if they don't pass these stupid tests.

BUT, even in the cases that they will NOT be left back, the teachers tell the kids this anyway to scare them into passing the tests.



Seems to me that schools would have enough sense to see that if they did not PRESSURE the kids and SCARE them into passing the tests, they would do a lot better.



Schools even change the scores on some tests to show they are passing so they will get more money, they sometimes don't count the lowest scores, etc.

This was on the front page of yahoo news for GEORGIA.



NCLB tests are to be done ONLY to see how good the SCHOOLS are doing and not the STUDENTS.

MOST students and parents don't know this.

Schools pressure parents into letting their child be in their 'afterschool tutor program' stating it is to help the child, when in fact it's a cover up to help the child pass the state tests so the school will GET MORE MONEY.

This happens all over in my state GEORGIA.



This NCLB law should make the TEACHERS and all school officials take the tests, since this law is to check on how good THEY are doing and NOT the students.
DrIG
2007-11-30 13:39:06 UTC
Almost all teachers are against most of the provisions of the NCLB Act.



The goals are very good. The major goal is that every child should be able to achieve in toge way that he is supposed to achieve. Provisions are made for tutoring, change of school and even the reorganization of schools that do not meet the standards as determined by testing. Many teachers are required to receive more training and be appropriately licensed.



Teachers do not like the idea off teaching for a test rather than teaching for learning. Most believe that it is unrealistic to require that special education students meet the same requirements as other students.
Lysa
2007-12-02 11:34:11 UTC
You have a lot of misconceptions about what NCLB is and what it mandates.



To begin with NCLB is NOT a law that says you can’t hold children back. That idea is called “Social Promotion”. Proponents of “Social Promotion” state that when you hold a child back they feel badly about themselves and then their self esteem lowers. This in turn leads to a higher dropout rate and drug abuse. In light of this, its proponents believe that it is than better to pass children, no matter how poorly they are doing, and no matter what the reason, so that they feel good about themselves. Some proponents state that they will naturally catch up with their peers, others state that academics aren't that important any how, while others believe that the new teacher will give the lower performing children more help so that they catch up. Sadly these people never take into consideration how badly the children feel when they realize that they can’t do the work that their peers can.



No Child Left Behind is a law that President Bush put into effect in 2001 that states that all states have to make standards and then test their children to make sure that they are learning those standards. The law also states that each year, more and more children have to pass the tests, until in 2014 when ALL children will be passing INCLUDING ALL THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. Every year that schools don’t raise the number of students who pass the tests, the school will be greatly penalized.



As far as how it affects students... There are many, many ways. Part of the law is mandatory help for children who are not on grade level. That is a good point. Sadly, the law doesn’t allow for the funds and time to do this, so many schools are now taking time out of their day to have the teachers teach the tutoring classes. This means that there is now less time for the teachers to teach the core curriculum. Moreover subjects like history, science, social studies and geography, which aren’t tested, no longer exist in many schools. This greatly affects our students because history, science, social studies and geography are often the very things that fuel their interests to learn. I know many learning disabled children who were ready to quit attempting to learn to read, who became avid learners and readers once their reading instruction was applied to something they were interested in like science. Additionally, knowledge of science, social studies, history, and geography IN ADDITION TO being able to read, write and do basic math, is what makes the difference between an “educated person” and a “literate person”. The purpose of an EDUCATION system is to produce EDUCATED people, not just “literate” people.



Another problem with the law is that it allows each state to choose their own standards. That means some states have chosen very low standards, while others have chosen impossibly high ones. Neither is good for the children. One doesn't challenge the average child while the other overwhelms them. Literally, a failing kindergarten in California could be on the third grade honor roll in New Mexico!





As far as the labeling and funding goes … throughout the country, there are two main failing subgroups; English learners and learning disabled children. Are we really surprised? How can we expect someone who is learning something to be as proficient as someone who already has some mastery of it? The whole situation screams of injustice when we realize that to be labeled as an English learner a child is tested; their low score earns them the label. As soon as a child becomes proficient he is “redesignated” as “English proficient” and his scores don’t count in the English learner subgroup any longer. When the number of English learners who are proficient does not increase does this really show that our English learners aren’t learning, or does it indicate that as a country we have more and more English learners?



Similarly, to be labeled as “learning disabled”, at least here in my state of California, children must score so poorly on certain standardized tests that there is a three year discrepancy between their chronological age and their academic proficiency. Is there any wonder why six months after being labeled learning disabled these very children don’t have the same scores as their counterparts who aren’t “disabled”? Is this truly a statement about a teacher, school, or district and their ability to teach the children in their jurisdiction?





Then we come to the funding. The way NCLB works is that when a school doesn’t make ENOUGH growth in ALL of its subgroups it is labeled “failing”. Failing schools receive lots of “mandates” from loss of funds to mandatory scripted curriculums that use a

“one size fits all approach” don’t take into consideration the needs of all children.





So how is all of this is is all of this helping our students? Simple, it isn’t. The advanced ones are bored to tears, the low ones are floundering, and the average ones are learning to sit quietly and regurgitate what is given to them. Science, social studies, history and geography the very subjects that can spark a child's interest in learning, and are vital to understanding the world in which we live, have been swept under the carpet.
anonymous
2007-11-30 04:52:10 UTC
You are absolutely correct in that the No Child Left Behind Act, in fact, leaves many children behind each year. Not only does this apply to students who do well in class and poorly on tests, but also, to the students of a school that is failing. According to the No Child Left Behind Act, when a school receives an "F" based on standardized test scores, money is taken away from the school and students are eligible to receive vouchers to go to other schools. However, this only hampers the entire situation, because the school becomes even more destined to fail as money is taken away (so that the program may not be improved upon) and as students go to other places, those schools become overcrowded and also begin to perform worse and worse on standardized tests. Also, standardized test scores under No Child Left Behind are also used for placement in higher level classes, and if a student is only a poor test taker, but a hard-worker, they might not be able to take the classes that they would succeed in and want to take. I'm not sure about special needs students not having to pass the tests, but I believe the standards are lowered for them and that they have much more time to complete the test. It also may depend on the state.
carnicelli
2016-09-30 12:07:23 UTC
It does not impression childrens with specific desires who're exterior of the regularly taking place curriculum--besides the undeniable fact that, source childrens and childrens who're on the regularly taking place degree song nonetheless are counted to ascertain a school's AYP--despite if or no longer they're passing and failing--so those childrens nonetheless would desire to be functioning on the 'suited' point for sorting out. yet those childrens in self contained training, who're education a certificated of attendence or what you call an IEP degree at the instant are not affected...they're actual no longer even seen in this piece of law and easily fall decrease than the assumption regulations.
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anonymous
2007-11-30 05:02:10 UTC
You are pretty close on your assumptions, and this is what happens when we have too much government,they shouldn't stick there noses in schools. They are always there to try and protect the few and the Hell with the many! The school system gave us no other choice but to start home schooling, and it was not because we wanted too, they gave us no choice! No matter how you want to cut this cake up, this is the fact.....No Child Left Behind was enacted solely for minorities, because the parents of the minority children would not step up to the plate , and do there part as a parent in helping there children with school work.......so like I said before , the many suffer for the FEW! And before I get the thumbs down award.....do a little research it's all there if you want to really see!
some_random_guy61
2007-11-30 16:20:01 UTC
ok, in school, have you ever had an assignment to do, but were too lazy/didnt feel like doing it, and you ended up just making stuff up just to 'complete it'?



well thats what bush did with education reforms. and its sickening.



i also agree with your example of the 12th grader failign and not getting his diploma. all the policy would do is discourage the student from further continuing education, and make him more likely to drop out. not good.



i think the main problem with no child left behind is that it targets kids who fail classes and tries to make them learn, when in fact we need a policy that prevents kids from failing in the first place.



a major beef i have with no child left behind is how it takes money away from high performing schools and gives it to low performing schools. so uh, what's our incentive for doing well in school again? having all our funds siphoned away?



overall i think no child left behind harms more than helps. we need a general overhaul of our educational policies and laws, and aim to help out students who are struggling rather than punish them by humiliating them in front of peers.


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